Challenges: Restoring/Re-Fitting Sailboats & Events

Selling Equipment and Business

2011-08-07T13:22:00.000-04:00

Pat has made the decision to sell her

business.

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bfs/2533276430.html

Sailing - Smoking - Health

2011-08-04T10:46:00.000-04:00

I have not been up during the last couple of years doing work on the O'Day. The good news is I quit smoking, lost 65 pounds (not by choice), and help Pat on weekend when I am available in her business www.e-stitches.com

The lure of getting back on this or another boat is strong. It is possible that when I retire, not anytime soon, of returning to the Chesapeake. Saltwater is in my blood, there is no doubt. Starting with the Westerly Cirus 22 in 1982, the Morgan Classic 30, Morgan OutIsland 416 and now the project boat, there is little doubt there is a drive to be, now this may sound silly, to be in a crisis situation on the water. Why is that? I experienced severe storms, mechanical problems while under sail, medical situations, and down right difficult people (not sailors or power boaters) . All has given me an appreciation of life and my family, a mindset that nothing is impossible, an understanding of adapting in a moment's notice without fear. Crisis is not a part of my make up.

Though I did not proceed with obtaining my doctorate , I think it is about time reduce thoughts to paper. Whether it will benefit others, I really don't care but would hope. What I do know is that, and I do not mean this as arrogant, but I have understanding of the human situation t better than many others in my field. Where did this come from? It came from those events during sailing that made me strong and a willingness to adapt, seeing a crisis as an opportunity to improve, and providing insight into issues as result of contacts. So much for a soap box.

Clock reset

2011-04-05T07:00:00.000-04:00

This is the second time I have reset the clock to complete work. Appears now the time I may have is in July for a few days. I still am looking for wiring that has a lower cost and is marine quality. Though I found auto wire, not going to use.

I am posting some past pictures of from long ago when Randy, see picture on earlier post, and I were traveling the bay on the 416. How would I like to do again. (Pic is in Washington DC on a fourth of July, Randy is holding a number of parrots for a picture.)

An issue that may prevent is my left arm. I picked up a large box at work perhaps two years ago and popped something. Since that time it has been painful.

As my wife would say "Do you want some cheese with that whining (wine)."

Computer Challenged

2011-03-29T22:13:00.000-04:00

Though I started using a computer in 1978 with a Tandy 4K with a cassette drive; and over the years moved from the inital 8088 with floppy drive 5 & 1/4. I rely on my son who is has his degree in networking to fix problems. As with all on his field, they get upset when simple questions are asked. He shared that he was drafted at the college he works for to teach as basis starter course one evening. When he told all in the class to move their mouse to the bottom of the screen, on lady placed her mouse on the monitor at the bottom !

Repairing Tarp

2011-03-27T06:56:00.000-04:00

I heard from the company that made the tape used on the tarp. Though it states use in tough conditions, they shared it was not water proof. I will stick to duct tape from now on.

Should you like to know the name. Leave me a note.

Change of Plans and talking to a friend

2011-03-25T13:55:00.000-04:00

It has been sometime since any work has occurred. My job and my bride's business takes up much of the time. Decided not to go with a slip for now, basically due to not having the boat ready. Bummer...

So when it is a little warmer going to start back. The boat has a tarp over but it is 2 two old. The seams came apart and I used a tape to put back together, but it failed during a storm recently. I e-mailed the manufacture this morning so I won't mention name, yet, that would not be fair to them at this point.

The joy last week is speaking to a friend that we had not had contact for years. He was visiting my wife's business and she put on the phone. I forget at times how important it is to keep in touch.

Anyway, I attached his picture when we were docked in Alexandria for the 4th of July in 1996.

Boat Slip and work left

2010-09-27T06:22:00.000-04:00

We may have a slip for the boat in four months, having been on the wait list for several years

This incentive means if I can get issues addressed, we will be sailing in the Spring !.

The list of items to complete is quite long, the first being to get the inside done. I estimate it could take 20 work days to meet that goal. Can it be done ? That remains to be seen.

Listing fo Older boats Specs

2010-09-27T06:20:00.000-04:00

I found this site that may be helpful to all. The author shares these will need to be verified.

http://pages.sssnet.com/go2erie/wind02.htm

Another year

2010-09-01T22:57:00.000-04:00

In 1 hour and 3 minutes, my 61st birthday arrive.

During this year I WILL get this boat done.

Picture of my sister as a baby and me at around 6.

ruidh said...: "Still following. When I got my '71 O23, I spent a month getting her seaworthy and then daysailed her. I didn't do any restoration other than safety that first year. She was ugly, but I got to sail. Things have progressed in the four years since. I can now sleep on board and will be doing cosmetics next year. "
Ruidh, I could not respond to your comments, so all I can say is I am so jealous....

For My infor

2010-08-14T12:27:00.000-04:00

A spec sheet on the 22

http://sbo.sailboatowners.com/images/kb/med/m_1093.jpg

http://sbo.sailboatowners.com/index.php?option=com_mtree&task=viewimage&img_id=7311&Itemid=257

Time is a wasting

2010-08-14T11:48:00.000-04:00

It seems that I cannot find the time to work on the O'Day. Though my work hours have been cut back and I no longer work on Fridays. Each time I plan to return, something appears.

That does not mean I have not thinking about the project. In the last few months, I have been considering several items:

1. Would like to have rolling furler, perhaps a CDI with or without ball bearing. And would prefer not spending over $250. That would not get a new system, so will need to search for a used, hopefully complete.

2. All the sheets running to the cockpit. Though Pat says she will not let me take the O'Day to the Chesapeake, I most likely will, especially on the Mobjack, where I started sailing in 1982.

3. Outboards are simple, but would the O'Day handle a small diesel? I have looked on the web and not found any info on this subject.

So much for thinking.

Well is that not a bite

2010-06-30T07:52:00.000-04:00

The O'Day has a feature that I was not aware of. The glass is 1/2 thick.

When in the H@#& will this get accomplished

2010-06-25T07:46:00.000-04:00

With the downturn in the economy, my efforts have been focused on our business and my job. However, this weekend plan to get back on the project. My family in Virginia Beach just got their trawler on the hard and I hope to spend some time on the Chesapeake.

Since the purpose is to get this one ready for my son and his son, I hope to have done before the clock on the site zeros out, we will see.

Finally - end of snow

2010-03-07T09:42:00.000-05:00

This is the first weekend since 12/23 there has not been snow on the ground.

Re-Thinking

2010-02-28T11:33:00.000-05:00

After considering, and hearing from others, I plan to continue with 22 O'Day and not buy any other vessels.

The time needed to complete the O'Day has more to do with available time and resources, mostly time.

Should I Buy another Boat?

2010-02-14T16:29:00.000-05:00

I found two more boats that I could get rather cheap,
however what does that mean??? I have not finished the O' Day
yet. It is tempting.

And the Snow contnues

2010-02-13T09:12:00.000-05:00

Just like the rest of the county the weather in Virginia continues. I had planned this weekend to clean up workshop, but, decided to look at boats for sale. Amazing how the cost of a Morgan Out Island 416 ketch price has held up. Though our was built in 1982, the resale is still for vessel in very good condition is in the high 80's.

I have a another site that I have linked to this one, called Linkin. This is network for people that I have worked with, know personally, or I have requested an introduction.

http://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaswmorris

I have not hooked up with face book, and suppose that I should.

Would I Take a 22 footer to the Bahamas??

2010-02-05T20:06:00.000-05:00

I could not get Ryan blog to repond to answer respond to his question:

So he says "hello, i am looking at possibly buying an oday 22 and found your site. My goal is to sail out the hudson in NY, up to maine, and then down to florida and the bahamas. Long and grueling trip i know. Was wondering if you had an opinion on whether or not you felt an oday22 could stand up to just off shore sailing with such a small keel, as well as if you think it is big enough for one man to live aboard.

I wish the best for you, your health, and your family."

Ryan, I hope to re-visit and I do apologize for not responding in a more timely manner.

A 22 day, in my opinion would not do well offshore. Basically, the draft is not deep enough nor is the boat as sturdy as I would like. Granted 22 footer can do well. If you look at the first boat I had and read up on it. The Cirus Westerly 22 was build for the North Seas, and was quite capable. While O'Days, Hunters, Catalinas all may say they could go off shore....I would not try.

Now the Chesapeake, find, even in a blow, the worst I have seen is 12 footers, and those are rare.

Before trying get on someone 41 footer like my Morgan OI in a blow.

Good luck

A Day Off & Can't Get To Boat !

2010-02-05T10:22:00.000-05:00

I have a day off due to the weather and no way to get to the boat. Given that, I made a list of the items were recently purchased. Just to review.

In a small town in North Carolina, I happened upon a lumber yard, that had teak plywood, they wanted to get rid of. For $90.00 bought two sheets of 1/2 inch. No bad.

Off E-bay 8 switch Blue Sea breaker panel that was new. It retails for $220 at West Marine, but got it for $77.00. I was able to get a ORIGO single burner alcohol stove for $130.00 and it was new. West Marine's goes for $230.00. Also a Ritchie BN202 Navigator bulkhead compass for $77.00, though used it in go shape. A new VHF Raymarine 55 for $145 off Ebay. Forgot to say, when in Norfolk took compass, Ritchie 200, looked at by WT Brownley, http://www.brownley-nautical.com/ the gentleman , "Steve" looked at it and found nothing wrong. Suggested that no to leave on the boat over the winter. It will make the diagram weaken, given it was made in 1985, it was be easier to repair, but why spent the money. Spent $325 on the outboard overhauled, which is cheaper that a new outboard.

Still snowing at 5 inches currently.

I found 200 foot of 12 gauge wire at the fairgrounds flea market in Raleigh where my has set up in the Atrium for the last 10 years doing Embroidery (Company is named E-Stitches, Inc) which cost $5.00. I will be able to use it to test circuits since it is not tinned.

Still looking for five rolls of Primary Wire, Marine Grade Tinned Wire Boat Cable 10 AWG type 3 stranded tinned copper conductors with UL, ABYC and USCG approvals. At this point have a e-mail into a company to see who manufacture their stock,would prefer ANCOR, but if it meets the standards that is find.

Also found a web site http://www.electrician2.com/ that has calculators for marine electrical
usage. I have e-mailed the author to ask for permission to link to this site.

Went to Naught Nell's shop in Deltaviille several months ago and in the consignment found two winches for $35.00 each to replace current. On the way back home, Pat and I discussed putting a head on the 22. I will need to see if anyone has done.

Finally purchase a 12 volt power supply, new (which I question,,,gotta to watch eBay, some folks are not upfront) but it was $11.00.

To Long

2010-02-01T20:53:00.000-05:00

Well the basement is done, the equipment is in...Is it being use, YES.....by Pat

Anyway, 12 inches on snow on the ground right night. Clock is still ticking.

Thinking whether or not to buy pick up a 41 foot, will Pat mine???

Down and out for the moment

2009-12-14T13:27:00.000-05:00

When one drops a table on one foot, it hurts!

Deltaville

2009-10-08T13:04:00.000-04:00

We to Deltaville yesterday to see a 30 ft Catalina. Though price was good, there is problems with the deck that broker shared. Apparently this occurred when built, in that the deck did not match up with the hull. IF we make an offer it will be substantial less that the asking. That would give us two boats, which I had not planned. Perhaps the best thing is to pass on this one, at this time. Would like to get a back on the Chesapeake, but not at that cost.

Went to Naught Nell's shop in the consignment and found two winches for $35.00 each to replace current. On the way back home, Pat suggested putting a head on 22. I will need to see if anyone has done.

Tried to find some crab soup but no one had. Amazing !

Smithfield Virginia

2009-09-20T22:18:00.000-04:00

Picked up my sister and brother in law off there boat today.

Why it is taking so long....

2009-09-06T09:52:00.000-04:00

Due to work and other projects, things have been on hold for the boat. Right now, well for the last three months, I have been working on the house's exterior, and doing some of the small items and contracting out the others.

But... when it gets colder, will get back on the boat. Still miss being with Pat and Chris on the Morgan. The picture is from 96, I think, at Deagle's boat yard in Deltaville, getting Island Gypsy ready.

The new owner, apparently change the name of the boat, cannot remember. The four boats, including this one, we have not changed. Could say we are superstitious.

Just found a another person that has purchased a 22 O'Day and in the process of working on.

Tweeter

2009-09-05T10:06:00.000-04:00

I thought about adding Tweeter to my site, whether it would be interesting to folk, don't know, but...not going to do it.

2009-09-05T09:57:00.000-04:00

It has been a number of months since any progress, and missed my projected complete date. Now looking for a set of witches to replace.

2009-05-23T08:05:00.000-04:00

May 23, 2009

First post in quite a while. No work on boat given that I have been working on exercie room for Pat. Currently in Kentucky at a family wedding.

Having Stopped for a While

2009-02-05T19:16:00.000-05:00

Well I most likely miss my deadline. So what is the plan? At this point there are 49 days to complete is not in the picture. I do have the motor that Chris picked up, so it is ready. $382 to fix, but cheaper than a new engine.

Hopefully, I will be able to get back to the work, when it gets warm.

Resettting clock today.

Cold and Wet

2008-11-30T17:00:00.000-05:00

Have not done much work on boat other than picking up a new VHF Raymarine 55 for around $145 off Ebay. The lack is due only to having other pressing matters to attend, my job mainly. Did go last month to Deltaville and VA Beach to see what I could pick up as to items. Found a few items at a good price in Norfolk. Sad day in DV, given at my past marine found a 50 foot ketch down at the dock. Also watch as family had a new dock put in at their home.

Yorktown, Deltaville looking for items

2008-11-09T13:12:00.000-05:00

End of October, went to look for items on the coast. Visited by family a VA Beach and picked up four boat stands they were by their next door neighbor. I will clean up and paint. Also, they are repairing their dock. At some point, may take over the boat and leave there for a few months, but that is down the pike, rather have it closer to home.

Had the Ritchie 200 looked at by repair shop in Norfolk , WT Brownley, http://www.brownley-nautical.com/ the gentleman , "Steve" looked at it and found nothing wrong. Suggested that no to leave on the boat over the winter. It will make the diagfram contract, given it was made in 1985, it was be easier to repair, but why spent the money.

In Deltaville, went to the Marina that we in, Fishing Bay,

Truck comes first

2008-10-06T18:32:00.000-04:00

Today the ABS light came on the F350. We took to one of the local folks. Given that the bearings were toast and the ball joint likewise, it was $638.00 to replace. But the good news, the manager turned to rotors on the front for $00.00, saving $85.00. Not much but it helps.

Beats the alternative of buying a new diesel.

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Update to last post

pacermarine.com by the way is the wire company in the prior post that the vendor sales. To be exact the sales department said in e-mail, " The material is Ancor or Pacer Marine (pacermarine.com) and due to the free shipping and only 50ft per color there's no price discount. Thanks, Mike NedianoGenuinedealz.com, LLC 866-970-3325 toll free http://shop.genuinedealz.com/. It appears in comparing to ANCOR http://www.marinco.com/product/primary-wire-10-awg it is similar, but I will to look closer. Do not want to replace just to save a few dollars.

Bulkhead for Blue Sea Distribution Panel

2008-10-05T20:03:00.000-04:00

In cutting a template for the bulkhead, I realized that it needed to start thing of wiring. This evening have ran across several site:

1. http://www.c34.org/projects/projects-electrical-system-upgrade.html
This is by John Gardner Seventh Heaven - 1988 Catalina 34#695. He has done an excellent discussion on electrical systems in his boat. http://www.c34.org/projects/projects.html This is a link to projects Mr. Garner group has developed, very impressive.

2. http://www.trojanbattery.com/Products/Marine.aspx
This is a site for Trojan Batteries that I am considering, T - 105 6 volt and using four for a bank. I have not decided on this as of yet due to the price.

3. http://shop.genuinedealz.com/Items/gim-wul10rd-l?sck=8504882&caSKU=gim-wul10rd-l&caTitle=10%20AWG%20Tinned%http://www.trojanbattery.com/Products/Marine.aspx20Marine%20Primary%20Wire%20Red%20-%2050%20FT

This site is for primary AWG " This marine grade, tinned copper primary wire, meets and exceeds the most stringent marine specification - UL Standard 1426 BC-5W2 (105°C Dry 75°C Wet). Our wire is constructed from finely stranded, Type 3 tin plated copper and is covered with a flexible and durable PVC insulation. You'll be pleased with it's ease of installation, clean stripping, and superior performance making this marine grade tinned primary wire your first choice for the demanding environments associated with marine installations. "

At $21.57 for a roll of 50 foot, I have e-mailed to get the manufacture. Though most likely not ANCOR, I will investigate and post the finding. In addition they ship free.
http://shop.genuinedealz.com/Image.aspx?URL=http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/12001114/images/5/red_primary_wire.jpg

Pictures of the Items

2008-10-04T19:30:00.000-04:00

Cost of the compass $77.00 plus $11.00 shipping. Stove $130 plus $12.00 shipping. Circuit panel $77.00 plus $11.00 shipping. Total $225.00 for items. Savings $414.00

Just not had to time to blog

2008-10-04T18:55:00.000-04:00

I have been working on the boat, plus my job, plus my wife's business, plus my volunteer work.

I still have not got the title to the young man for the trailer, but Pat has reminded me again.

I have been fortunate to find items that I needed for the boat.

In a small town in North Carolina, I happened upon a lumber yard, that had teak plywood, they wanted to get rid of. For $90.00 bought two sheets of 1/2 inch. No bad.

Also purchased off E-bay Blue Sea breaker panel that was new. It retails for $220 at West Marine, but got it for $77.00. I was able to get a ORIGO single burner alcohol stove for $130.00 and it was new. West Marine's goes for $230.00. Also a Ritchie BN202 Navigator bulkhead compass for $77.00, though used it in go shape.

I found 200 foot of 12 gauge wire at the fairgrounds flea market in Raleigh where my has set up in the Atrium for the last 10 years doing Embroidery (Company is named E-Stitches, Inc) which cost $5.00. I will be able to use it to test circuits since it is not tinned.

Currently, this evening I and looking for five rolls of Primary Wire, Marine Grade Tinned Wire Boat Cable 10 AWG type 3 stranded tinned copper conductors with UL, ABYC and USCG approvals. At this point have a e-mail into a company to see who manufacture their stock,would prefer ANCOR, but if it meets the standards that is find.

Also found a web site http://www.electrician2.com/ that has calculators for marine electrical
usage. I have e-mailed the author to ask for permission to link to this site.

The pictures are of the items plus Pat hoops for her embroidery can be seen, sorry if that is confusing.

Finally purchase a 12 volt power supply, new (which I question,,,gotta to watch eBay, some folks are not upfront) but it was $11.00.

Commonwealth of Va, State of Missouri - Headache

2008-08-26T15:12:00.000-04:00

After finishing some business up for Pat, went again to get the title for the trailer. Though we have all we need, it did not go. As I told the folks at DMV, http://www.dmvnow.com/ the boat was titled to my name using the Missouri http://dor.mo.gov/mvdl/ title sign over the the young man from his uncle and aunt, which was not a big deal. You would think that the trailer would not be difficult. Well guess what.

I did not want to, but had to call the young man from which I purchase. By the way he graduated from college and said he ws working for his father. That great, kept it in the family Clayton.

So what we have to do is send the title to him, have him title in Florida http://www.dmvflorida.org/ in his name and sent back to me that it is sold to me. It will cost a few dollars, but will sent him a check when I get back.

We had tried his dad suggestion to get a sworn statement as the boat inherited but of course Virginia can't that.

I asked the Commonwealth why one department had not problem and another were throwing road blocks up. Of course their answer was typical government answer, " it's our policy."

Continuing on Bow

2008-08-24T17:50:00.000-04:00

Continue to work on the bow berth. Given that that rails glassed in are uneven, worked most of the day getting shims in place. It is level an I need to grind out some tabs in the very front bow to make it fit. Once done, I will glass in the shims, realign the bolt holes and screw down. (The tube in picture is again for the the anchor well to drain.)

Next is to do another bulkhead, to support the bow's berth on the aft. It is around one inch higher that forward factory cubby for the water. I will plywood across, and cut an access with small door in that cubby.

I am looking to re-configure the sink. There should be room to do, though no head room to speak, but this is a 22 not a Morgan 416.

On my list is a furler. From what I have read, it sound as it the CDI FF2 with Ball Bearing should work. Below is a sailnet entry from 2001 on the subject. Credit is given to the unknown author.

"Before sailnet was sailnet it was JSI. I worked in the hardware department for a number of years and sold Schaeffer,Harken,CDI,Profurl,and Hood furlers.In most cases the application determined which furler was best for the job.I attended the Harken tech school in Pewaukee and have tremendous respect for their company and products. Schaeffer is nearly bulletproof with excellent factory support. Same with Profurl. CDI is a great unit, in my opinion, for smaller boats up to about 33'' headstay. The Harken systems are top of the line and can be assembled over the headstay(removed from the boat) and then reinstalled by sending a man aloft and reattching the headstay complete with furler.Harken''s unit00 did have production problems at first. They tried coextruding PVC and braided stainless but the different coefficients of expansion of the two mat''ls just didn''t work. To Harkens credit they would not release this unit until all the glitches were worked out. CDI''s Flexible furler spawned the Harken unit,Schaeffers Snapfurl,and Hoods Sea flex. These flex units were introduced primarily for trailer sailors so as not to damage rigid foils when transporting their boats. In a nutshell, if you trailer your boat the flex units are the way to go if not you''ll probably get the best performance from a rigid foil system. Hope this helps.Good luck." Waternut...............

2008-08-18T16:11:00.000-04:00

I need to further tweak. Placed in bow the foam, in front of the installed bulkhead. When I tore out the prior berths, there was rot and water damage on the very front. This came from the vent above on deck. (I am turning deck vent into opening for chain and rode). So, with the drain, and West the area, I will have a well for that water will drain to the bilge via a 1/14" clear reinforced hose. Used 5/8" marine grade plywood for berths, sealed with Cetrol and four coats of satin varnish. The tweaking comes from that when tied, the two pieces are level. But the rails become to lower. I marked a red line around both berths and being added shims that will be West in. During the work levels spiked again to 300. One reason may be I forgot to get refills for the six pills taken. In a few weeks, will have a birthday, almost 60. No way, I cannot fathom that age. I will say, this piddling with the boat is demanding, given there is not blueprint and all needs to be done by continous thinking.

Not Much Progress

2008-08-11T20:09:00.000-04:00

So it has been a year, 12 month, 365 days since trading work for this boat. To date most likely have spent around $1500.00. Though alot, I enjoy the solice.

This is a picture of my son Christopher and a friend sitting on Len's boat in Deltaville in 1999. This is where I want to be with my family. If possible it may happen.

Bought a table saw and a chop saw to use. The router that Pat gave me years ago is basically never been used. Will need a table. Our friend, Shannon in North Carolina is a real artisan and is going to get the post.

The Bow Berth Template

2008-07-21T20:46:00.000-04:00

I made a template from the old berth, with some adjustment. It was easier to make one complete piece and then rip it into equal pieces. I use foam board for all my templates, saves money and mistakes are cheap.

By the way, here is the a part of the workshop, again. Please see the number of cans (3) with one on the boat for a total of 4 of West used.

Heavy Weight Solution

2008-07-21T20:07:00.000-04:00

Could not do much this weekend, my levels went to 310 due probably to all the sugar and carbs I ate. However, did take a picture of the forward berth I have been working on. The first thing was to West the side rails that the berth rest. Just to make sure there were not screw holes that may take moisture. Since, there was a board, perhaps a fir strip, running from the bow to the back of the forward berth to support the two pieces of the plywood berth, there was no way that could whole two folks sleeping there, much less one. I decided to put a bulkhead in. The top is flush with the rails, so to adjust I added a movable slat that can be cut to fit the exact height of the berths. May not look good, but I have seen this done at boatyard on large vessels. Tabbed in the bulkhead with a gap of around 1/8" for flex in hull. Now to cut the berths.

To follow up a prior photo of the tabernacle and plates that I had fabricated, here is another picture. The holes on the side will be used as the point for blocks for the head sail furler and main.

Motor

2008-07-18T22:29:00.000-04:00

Took the motor to a shop near South Hill, VA. It is a 1970, ouch! The gentleman said there were plenty of this model working on small rent shops over the nation and it was a strong motor. He asked how long it had been out of the water, which I have not idea, but guess around six years. Mr. Allen said the for sure the water pump and carb would need replacing, but would call me with an idea. Given a new motor is $1500, I think a few hundred in in line.

Put a thread out on sailnet to get a conversation going on O'Day 22. Nothing yet, what the hay. Just want to get as much info as possible.

Family member text me, they are on the way to Tangier up the bay. I miss the saltwater, especially my 416 (picture), with my son and wife, oh well.

Target date is still 2/09

Time to Make another List -Titling Trailer !

2008-07-14T21:39:00.000-04:00

Though I am not to the point of starting another project. I do need to start planning. Once the bow berth, anchor well, sink, stove, floor, and other pieces of interior wood. Then the test on the deck of leaks. *&^ that a list in itself.

I need to find the following, knowing that this list will grow.

1. Plenty of wiring ANCOR 12, black, red, dark blue, brown/yellow, brown, green/yellow. (unless find a good deal on three colors, these would be a start. ) Since I am rewiring the entire boat, need to find out from specs or another person on net, feet needed. I can figure, but why reinvent the wire, (wheel).

2. A DC panel with eight throws and fuses. Prefer with volt meter. Water proof butt connectors, I hope I will not need. Ring terminals, three way connectors, heat shrink connectors.

Started on the trailer title, first go around was no go. Need to come back to this

Question to Sailnet - Moving off trailer

2008-07-08T21:07:00.000-04:00

My son decided to take a picture. Perhaps I should get persoanlized tags that say OLDNACL. I don't know whether anyone in this area will understand...but who cares

While I had a moment, I asked some of the veterns SAILNET about taking the boat off the trailer. I don't know whether that will have but I need to have the information should the time occur to do so.

Here are some of the comments thusfar

“Maybe instead just put some timbers atwartships under the stern and jack her up that way. Lower her back down, or not, and then jack up the bow. You can jack on the line of the keel, fore or aft, and then slide a timber under supported by cement blocks.” Sailaway - Sailnet

“Remember to put the cinderblocks so the holes are vertical... they don't support as much weight safely if the holes are horizontal. “ Sailingdog - Sailnet

“Jack up the stern by lowering the trailer tongue as low as it will go. Block the back of the boat up. Then jack up the bow by raising the trailer tongue as high as you need to. If you've got a long enough, strong enough beam, you can block it up under the bow and then pull the trailer out. Alternatively, you block up the bow with a stack of blocks, pull the trailer forward until a trailer cross-beam runs up to the blocks, then build a block stack behind the trailer cross-beam, transfer the load from the front blocks to the back blocks, take down the front blocks, pull the trailer forward again, build up the front block stack again, etc... Reverse the process to get the trailer back under the boat once you've done the work you need to do.

I've done it with a San Juan 21...” Catamount – Senior member Sailnet

Thanks to all the folks for their insight

Bow Bulkhead

2008-07-04T22:54:00.000-04:00

Got the bow bulkhead fabricated today and West it. Hope to get it in this weekend, with some progress on berth in bow. Have decide to install, when that come about, two golf cart batteries. They are use to being charged often and should hold up. Will put in the area beneath the step added, with ventilation. Working on the wiring needs in the evening, I have not decided what size, of wire to use, perhaps 12. We will see.

One I have the wood inside done, and glassing the bilge , need to do a pressure test on desk to find the leaks before pulling out backs for deck.

Update

The forward berth is going to be interesting. The glassed in rails on the port and starboard for the wood to rest on are sightly lower than the molded form where the water tank, if that what it was called, lie. I'll West over the rails after leveling the bulkhead forward, so now I will need to do the same to make it level. In front of the bulkhead, I am replacing the foam blocks and behind will have a raised section that foam will go under.

Have decided to strip the bottom like I did the Westerly and 30 foot Morgan. But this time, I am considering using a soy product, that was not available way back. But need to do more research.

Plan to consider taking the boat off the trailer...Will need some advice before proceeding. Again the date to be in the water or at least done is 02/08.

Going Off Shore

2008-06-25T19:16:00.000-04:00

Here is Pat before we go off shore in Myrtle Beach. We took a short break.

Father's Day - Sole

2008-06-15T18:57:00.000-04:00

Chris and his family took me to lunch while Pat was working in her business. I told my grandson that I would have the boat done by February 2009. This is the only way this will happen. Unless I have a goal it won't happen. The only obstacle would be another presswing project!!!

The truck to pull the boat was new when I bought, has over 200k, but it will last, hopefully

I have decided to cover the sole inside with marine plywood and use the following suggestion from a member of the Sailnet Community. I am going to use west in some voids, though the sole is strong. No need to make my this difficult.

"I did exactly what you are thinking about on a 23 ft. boat that had a nearly rectangular floor area. I used mahogany doorskins that I sealed on both sides with sealer and varnish (resin would have been better) and then used quarter inch white pinstriping tape. I the varnished over the whole thing with about 6 or 7 coats of a traditional type varnish (non urethane), which leveled out the surface and protected the tape. The doorskins were flexible enough to take the contour of the sole easily, and the color required no staining and looked very much like teak. I know this sounds mickey mouse, but it looked good, cost very little, and lasted the seven years I had the boat and looked good to the next owner. After all, when I did this I had all of about $2000 invested in this boat and wasn't about to spend money on real teak and holly, which was too thick to work anyway." Credit to jgeissinger

Hickley

2008-06-06T09:59:00.000-04:00

Here is the 57 foot Hickley 1986 in Norfolk

Put off getting the title changed till now. That is done, need also to do the trailer.

To Cut Out or Not To Cut Out, Is That The Question?

2008-06-03T18:17:00.000-04:00

Having looked at the options for the sole. After considering whether to cut out the sole given that I plan to install teak and holly or hydrocore marine plywood. This would be a waste of time. The port for the bilge did not give a good view of the condition, so I cut an equal port over the bilge 12" from the existing. Of course my drimel stopping working ( will send back and they will replace) but I found that indeed there is delamiation. But to the degree it is not as bad as it could be. Will need to glass the bilge which makes sense after cleaning out. Should not be a problem.

Also I am attaching a pictures of a few of the areas that I'm working on. I am not a great with a camera. The first is that of the port aft berth. The berth itself was replaced with 5/8 marine plywood with Cetol coat, four coats of varish will come later. The opening will have a door so that I can get back to the stern (tight fit). The center is that of the bulkhead fiting on the port center with 5/8 hydocore marine plywood (looks like teak.) This picture is before four coats of varnish was applied, now is looks like a miror. The last is where glassed in area for stainless plate on top of a new teak compression post. The post will have a base also made of stainless. For now I have a jacked post in that area. More to come when things hopefully continue to come along.

More Info is good info

2008-06-01T09:36:00.000-04:00

Found a site of a gentleman that has restored a 22 O'Day. He is must more detail than I am. Made a paper copy to pick up some tips from his work. Interesting that he is own the road in Carboro NC. http://carrboroyachtclub.blogspot.com/

At this point, I will be moving to continue to box beneath the cockpit for the batteries . Currently planning to install two.

Cut a port in the sole in order to work on the bilge. What I found was the same as the gentleman above. Delamination. So that is the next project.

Where I AM At This Point

2008-05-25T11:17:00.000-04:00

Have spent the last evening working on getting the port aft berth bulkhead installed. About to run out of teak support but will need to wait until cash flow is better to drop another $200. The bulkhead on the starboard aft is done, the risers for the step is done, which in itself was a two month job. The stay in the hospital did not help. Looking to the sail net community as to advise for the gaps I left between the bulkhead and glass. Did not want to put stress on glass. Thinking of using foam. Waiting for opinions(s).

Found out from one of my friends at boat yard, that most trawler use quite a bit of foam in the can for voids. Just make sure that is not the stuff used on houses, need one like evercoat.

Boat Sick

2008-05-10T20:36:00.000-04:00

This was taken in 1998 by a friend that was on his power boat as we traveled together on the Chesapeake coming back from Eastern Shore. I am at the helm and the gentleman on the front was a guest. The Island Gypsy is doing around 8 knots at this point with all sails aloft.

I miss this boat.

To much to do - May 10. 2008

2008-05-10T18:35:00.000-04:00

I have not had the time to do much, but some items are done. The starboard and port berths are in with support bulkhead fiberglassed in. Now, I am working on a step that will give me an area for batteries. Have the deck plate fabricated, with holes for block, see picture.

Most likely will not have ready for this season, just to much to do and work has been demanding.

2008-02-11T21:14:00.000-05:00

February 10, 2008 - Progress, perhaps

2008-02-10T07:23:00.000-05:00

On Saturday, I had planned to start early, but forgot about the training two of my staff were doing, so I decided to just say hi.

Got back home, continued with the starboard assembly for the step. Bolted into the bulkhead that I had made and to the fiberglass rise for the berth. Look fairly good.

Decided to varnish the midship bulkheads completed with clear gloss over the satin. To make sure it was good adhesion, did a small section hid by bulkhead attachment. Look good when dry and proceeded to coat remaining area. I ahave not make my mind as to whether to pull the port install new bulkhead to varnish or just do on board.

By the way the young man that did the following blog did an excellent job in tracking his work.http://www.oday22.com/about

Not as cold - February 3, 2008

2008-02-03T21:00:00.000-05:00

The weather has not been to cold to work inside boat as well as basement. Went back to Windor and got 1/4 marine plywood, with a vener. The company is worldpanel.com.

I will have both aft berths and step down in another two weeks. At this speed will not be sailing soon.

Looking for Bolts - January 20, 2008

2008-01-20T10:54:00.000-05:00

I did not realize how difficult it is to find a stainless bolt(s). I found some at Burke Hardware in Raliegh yesterday after visiting both Home Depot and Lowes. Neither had what I needed for the bulkheads.

Today I visited with a friend in Eden fleamarket, who also sells bolts. We talked and I added him to google mail.

Today it is 21 degrees here, no snow though. Working in the work area today getting the starboard berth ready to put in. I think I have come to a plan for the batteries, eletrical panel, VHF, compass and battery switch. The remaining question, will it be in the water by spring?

At Wintergreen - January 12 & 13, 2008 (No Boats Here)

2008-01-12T19:28:00.000-05:00

Chris in the red jacket

Sue called and said the unit was was open and Chris should go ski at WinterGreen . Though on call for work, another staff offered to watch the weekend for me.

This was the first time in years, since sailing on the Island Gyspy, we have spent this much time together. That was back in 1996. That's to long of a time not to spent time with one's child.

He still does pretty good.

Xmas at Home

2007-12-31T20:21:00.000-05:00

Pat and Chris

Home sweet Home

Pat, Chris, Heather

Our grandson, Camerson Heather

and Dodger

The work shop

2007-12-30T18:08:00.000-05:00

Alot of stuff from other three boats, never know when you will need something.

Old vs. Young

2007-12-27T19:48:00.000-05:00

When I was 32, Chris was about to experiecne his first trip on
our Westerley in the Mobjack. At that time, I could hold him on my shoulders.

And here is the same, but quite older man and his boat. Insterad of being on my boat, Chris is taking my picture. Not much work on the boat. I will be adding other pictures, soon. Happy New Year

Past meetings - November 29, 2007

2007-11-29T09:32:00.000-05:00

Just heard back from Lin and Larry Pardey. Had not seen them since 1998 at Fishing Bay. Though we did not talk much, I enjoyed the brief encounter. I would highly recommend all sailors to vist their site.
http://www.landlpardey.com/

Happy Thanksgiving

2007-11-22T18:27:00.000-05:00

Turkey Day - Chris, Heather and Cameron came over for as usual a great meal by Pat. Chris moved some heavy items for me that I had left until he had a chance to help.

Bulkhead Aft - November 19,2007

2007-11-19T09:01:00.000-05:00

I cut out a pattern from blue foam board, 1/4 ", and after much correcting and adding pieces by masking tape, I am ready to cut out of the marine plywood. I will need to make this a two piece installation, not because of fitting, but the width of the area. I want the have the strength by having grain run vertical, but the the area to cover is five feet. Prior to installing will seal wood with expoxy west system. Most likely use the old from six years ago. Though is no longer clear, really does not matter since will not be seen.

There are folks alot worst off than I am and still kicking. Anyway, I have to get this boat done.

Tack up wind

2007-11-13T17:39:00.000-05:00

I found this in my wandering and appreciate the author, that is unknown at this time

Quote "A basic sloop rig with two six-ft cockpit seats and two good sized berths in the main cabin. The V-berth is only large enough for children. ( We use it for storage.) A delightful boat for "gunkholing" here in the Florida Keys. Run aground? With a 23 in. draft, just get out and push it off! The outboard's prop never gets near bottom. Sails nicely with just 140 genoa. Comfortable for two persons for overnite or several days. Limitations are ice and water. Added life lines, stern rail (used), roller furling, all new navigation lights, Origo single-burner alcohol stove, stern-mounted charcoal barbecue, compass, vhf, 10 gal. water tank, 12 gal. gas tank on aft deck of cockpit, awning, electric bilge pump, cassette stereo, used loran and used autopilot. Converted mast to internal halyards and lead them back to cockpit. Upgraded primary winches (with used ones) and put original primary winch on cabin top for halyards. Makes a nice comfortsble compact cruiser. WEAKNESSES: (1.) Both original u-bolt-style "chainplates" failed from cracks while under sail. Had to get new ones hand made for $85. (2.) Carry a spare tiller. I slipped and fell against mine, and it split right at the rudder. It's a weak design, and you can't get home without one. Overall, my wife and I love the boat. " Unquote

Difficult Time, Nay Just life - November 12, 2007

2007-11-12T21:39:00.000-05:00

So, back to the boat. Wasn't that a transition....

I have got both bulkheads done. I have glassed the overhead and had the plates made to back the hinge for mast on deck. Removed all the foam beneath the cockpit and cleaned. Now is the time to decide whether to cut out the flooring. It seems sturdy, perhaps well enough alone. It depends on the bilge area. If that can be addressed without removing the floor. Perhaps if I make entrances in section along the bilge. We will have to see.

I have had a good life and should not complain. But, I need to get back in the bay.

By the way, go back to 8/11/07. Quote" I don't plan to spend too much." Dare I say more. This is just another hole in the water (driveway) to pour money into. At this point we are at $1500 for all costs including boat itself.

Catching Up - October 20, 2007

2007-10-20T07:23:00.000-04:00

Well I have not had a chance to enter information, things have been going on outside my control. However, I have removed the two bulkheads, recut new, and began varnishing. Put a post in to allow those to be removed. Pat bought white vinyl for the walls.

Chris came over on the weekend and helped. I am hoping that he continues.

Supplies and removing remaining wood- September 30, 2007

2007-09-30T10:24:00.000-04:00

Other events have taken up my time and the project has been secondary. However, I have made some ground on materials that were needed. Picked up basis items at Lowe's', sandpaper, masks, acetone, 0000 steel wool, fine blades for jig saw and bees wax. The later was to be butcher wax recommended by Shannon who works with Pat on the weekends at E-Stitches. The latter was not available so I purchased some bee wax to put on the bottom of the sled of the jig saw. This will keep the wood from being scared.

I called West Marine and ordered items. Interior paint, varnish (satin), West System expoy. Cost was around $170.00. Having registered as a new boat owner at the Virginia Beach WM, received an additional 10% off, plus shipping was $1.05, not bad.

I have taken all the interior wood, save the bulkhead. There I have a post in place ready to remove the existing bulkhead. Pat and I discussed the interior. She suggested that I replace the vinyl with a white somewhat rough feel. She said that when back in Raleigh would look for.

Wood Panel Visit -September 19, 2007

2007-09-19T20:20:00.000-04:00

I visited Wood Panel Products in Windor, NC. over the weekend and met Al and Mike. They were extremely helpful and were able to provide me with the how to. I bought sheets of HydroCore BS1088 Marine Plywood 2440 x 1220mm. They explained that this plywood is for structure, like I need for bulkhead. Their web site is http://www.worldpanel.com/

That too much money - September 18, 2007

2007-09-18T22:24:00.000-04:00

&&mm, spent money which I was not prepare. I stayed at my family's home in Virginia Beach while attending a conference for work. Thanks Mike and Susan !

In leaving, I decided to stop at West Marine, that was a wrong decision. I bought two gallons of 2000E Barrier Interlux, with a gift card that coverage a percentage plus a new boat discount. I saved $50.00 by doing so.

The question of consignment came up and I found Salty Dog in Norfolk. Got a fiberglass roller and a roll of glass, woven, fairly cheap.

I decided to stop downtown Norfolk at Yukon Lumber to check plywood prices, but could not find. I know it is up off Waterside Dr. then to St. Paul. Anyway, went over to Bluewater in Hampton and spoke about getting some expoy resin, all they had in stock was West. I don't like West. It to expensive. Will wait on that.

Went over to Newport News downtown to my old stomping grounds, for work not play, and went into Waterside Lumber. I had not been there in 20 years.

They had marine plywood at a reasonable price, I bought a few sheets and drove on home. Pat helped me unload.

Tomorrow I am driving down to Windor NC to World Panel to look at some teak veneer.

Cost of the day. $200.00

Something said about too many list - September 14, 2007

2007-09-14T20:27:00.001-04:00

I keep thinking of plans for the boat. Now I want to consider how many batteries, do I want shore power, what about solar? Need to focus on one thing at a time. Ok, got it cleaned except for mid-ships, which won't take long. I had planned to next go outside and work on the boat then do pressure water test the deck. Time wise, ain't a factor. There is no haul out or toss in fee, storage is free.

So finish the midships and the scrap the hull below the water line....This is a circle, I have been here before.

Batteries, need to focus on..not now !

Overload information -September 14, 2007

2007-09-13T23:03:00.000-04:00

TOO much information. Here I make a decision on the wood for the bulkhead and bamg ! Here I go again. A boat maker said not to use plywood reasoning that it will never come back to the same. What that means I have no idea. He said to take Mahogany boards. I don't know.....

Decision MDO vs Marine plywood - September 12, 2007

2007-09-11T22:27:00.000-04:00

I am going to have to replace the bulkhead at some point. After taking and writing, listening and reading. I think the best choice is to use marine plywood. I want to cover that with veneer, what I don't know yet. So that decision is made. Moving on. Once I have the entire boat clean, except for areas that was no way to get to (beneath the cockpit where foam is located and the stern below the cockpit that I cannot reach.)

I am stopping inside and go outside to do below the water line. My plan is to do the same as I have with all my prior boats. Sand or scrap down to the gel coat, get it smooth and fiberglass where I need to, I hope there is none. Then seal the bottom with two coats of good expoy, like Interlux.

Next, I will do a pressure test of the deck, sealing all area to allow the pressure to build up inside and water with Joy, slowing watching for bubbles.

This is when the work will start.

Where I was 9 11 2001

2007-09-10T19:40:00.000-04:00

7:59 a.m. American Airlines Flight 11 takes off from Boston's Logan Airport and I was up drinking coffee.
8:13 a.m. The last official communication between American Airlines Flight 11 and ground controllers occurs and the transponder stops transmitting. The hijacking occurs at about this point and I was in the shower.
8:43 a.m. United Airlines Flight 175 is hijacked and I was brushing my teeth.
8:46:26 a.m. American Airlines Flight 11 out of Boston, Massachusetts, crashes into the north tower of the World Trade Center with an estimated 10,000 gallons of fuel and traveling 470 mph, I was unaware until the news broke in. I sat in my chair in disbelief.
8:50 a.m. United Airlines Flight 175 begins heading towards New York City.
9:02:54 a.m. United Airlines Flight 175 hits the south tower of the World Trade Center and explodes and I was there in my house in my comfortable chair, watching and horrified.
9:38 a.m. American Airlines Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon. My God who will be next, I thought.
10:05 a.m. The south tower of the World Trade Center collapses.
10:10 a.m. A portion of the Pentagon collapses.
10:10 a.m. United Airlines Flight 93 crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh.
10:28 a.m. The north tower of the World Trade Center collapses from the top down on. I cried for an hour in disbelief.

On 09 11 07, I will go to work at be at my desk at 8:46:26 ----SAFE , God willing.

Remember

Source of free Mahogany ? - September 10, 2007

2007-09-10T18:50:00.000-04:00

This morning having coffee at a local store, I got to talking with a gentleman that builds furniture. Told him I needed to buy some mahogany. He said not to buy but come to his shop. He had a pile of mahogany six foot tall in lengthy up to four feet. In asking where he found got it. Said that it come from pallets that his items are shipped on from Indonesia. Further, that most folks are unaware of this. Further, many pallet recyclers done like to use, because it hard to nail. So, I pass this along to those looking. They should talk to folks that 1: ship in large items from Indonesia or 2. Talk to pallet recyclers.

Removing the Rotten wood - September 8, 2007

2007-09-09T10:20:00.000-04:00

The plywood install by the builder was pine and not sealed, so over the years, getting wet and so forth if came down to being useless to repair. In speaking to a supplier for marine and MBO plywood, the cost is prohibitive for the amount that is needed. I will pose a question on sailnet and see if there is any alternative. (Answers varied, to no on your life to OK with expoy. Still need to see what would be the best solution as well as the true cost in long run.)

I have removed the foam blocks from the bow, for now, and cleaned the area. In cleaning, I have now seen all the areas inside that need attention. This is the only way that I know one can really get to know a boat. (Only repair in the front/bow of book is replace the berths). I will be instaling so shelves in the bow and then returning he foam blocks. The boat does not have a head and I would like. Pat want me to just have a portable pot. I guess that will have to do.

May need to replace the bulkheads, the wood at the bottom is rotted out. That will be a chore.

The 41, 30 and Westerly did not have the rotten plywood that this vessel has, so this is a new area for me. It not a problem as to replacing, having kept all the old plywood for templates.

Once the inside is ready to start rebuilding, I am going to pressure test the deck with water and Joy to see what has to be done.
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For future reference for the purpose by writer to have a quick source of information when needed. THESE ARE NOT THE WRITER but are attributed to other sources found on the Web.

Jim Seidel of Interlux doesn’t recommend applying any single-part topside paint directly over newly cured epoxy. Apparently, the amine blush, a common byproduct of cured epoxy, mixes with the driers in the paint and the finish won’t dry. Two-part finishes, like Interthane Plus, are less susceptible to amine blush. Better to allow the epoxy to cure for about a week or longer, then remove the water-soluble blush with soapy water and wet sand with 120-grit paper (always use 3M Freecut paper to prevent paper loading). As for a primer, it’s best to apply a blush-free polyamide epoxy, such as Interlux 404/414, then sand and apply the topside paint. To solve your problem Seidel recommends sanding well with 220-grit paper and wipe down with Interlux 333 thinner. Then try a small test patch, applying Brightside thinned 10% with 333. If it dries, paint the rest. If it doesn’t, sand to remove all the primer, then paint with 404/414 and Interthane Plus. This paint is a better choice for decks as it’s much harder than Brightside, but it cannot be applied over Brightside primer. The prior is attrituded to Interlux Paint.

The best method to attach fasteners where there is no back access and you cannot thru-bolt with a backing plate is to use the hardware bonding method. Bonding fasteners with epoxy resin (e.g. Epiglass, West System) increases the load transfer area to provide the needed holding power. Bonding techniques vary for cored and non-cored decks and for aluminum and stainless hardware. The following instructions are outlined in more detail in the booklet “Fiberglass Boat Repair & Maintenance” (catalog number 002-550), published and sold by Gougeon Brothers (Tel: 517/684-7286). Considering the point loading on a boarding ladder, you must prepare the hull and hardware exactly as outlined to ensure a good bond and prevent damage to the deck. To do this, mask the working area, then solvent wipe. Masking prevents contaminating the work area with wax residue, etc. Drill an oversize hole, twice the diameter of the fastener and to a depth of its length. To increase the holding power, fill the hole one-third full with epoxy thickened with colloidal silica. Let cure. Place the mounting brackets in position and outline the perimeter and fastener holes with a pencil. Drill pilot holes in the cured epoxy for the screws. Tape plastic around the work area to protect from spills. Using 80-grit paper, sand the area within the pencil line. Also sand the contact surface of the mounting brackets to expose fresh metal. Mask the finish surfaces of the brackets for protection from epoxy spills. Solvent wipe all mating surfaces. Mix up a small batch of unthickened epoxy and wet-out the matting surface of the deck, inside the drilled deck holes and screw threads. Wet out the mounting surface of the brackets, then aggressively sand with 80-grit paper. This exposes fresh metal in epoxy, thus eliminating air and the possibility of oxidation. West System also recommends etching the aluminum prior to wetting out (purchase the 860 Aluminum Etch Kit). Thicken epoxy resin with colloidal silica to a peanut-butter consistency. Apply liberally to the deck mounting surface. Fill the fastener holes and, using a toothpick or small stick, stir to remove any air bubbles. Liberally coat the screw threads with thickened epoxy. Place the brackets in position and tighten the fasteners just until epoxy begins to squeeze out the joint. Clean up any epoxy residue. Remove the masking tape. Allow the epoxy to fully cure at least 24 hours before attaching the ladder, and wait three days to a week before applying a load. The pror is attritubed to Interlux Paint Company.

Barrier coatings are designed to prevent blisters but the occurrence of blistering is unpredictable and subject to many variables. Chances are that, if your boat has been in the same geographic area with the same haulout schedule for many years and has suffered no blistering, it is not likely to anytime soon. Take the boat to a fresh water lake in Georgia and leave it in the water for 20 months straight and it might suddenly develop a blister problem. Some of the variables that affect a particular boat's proclivity for blistering include the quality controls on construction and materials at the time the boat was built, such as the length of time the boat has continuously been in the water and water temperature and salinity content. The next time you haul out have a surveyor inspect the hull bottom and check the moisture levels with a moisture meter after the boat has been out of the water for awhile. High relative (relative to the normally dry hull topsides) readings may give early warning of a potential for hydrolysis of the resin and the resulting blisters. In that case, you can dry the boat out and apply a barrier coating before the blisters have a chance to start. A barrier coat applied to a dry hull helps prevent blisters by preventing water migration into the laminate. Like an insurance policy, it's never a bad idea but you might not ever actually need it. The prior is attritubed to Interlux Paint Company.

According to Jim Siedel of Interlux, when a boat is not kept in the water there is no need for antifouling paint. Over time, however, the existing paint will begin to fade and chalk. This is an aesthetic problem only and, while it doesn't harm the hull, it may damage people's clothes if they come in contact with it. Use a paint remover (e.g., Interstrip 299E) to remove the coating. To remove the leftover stain in the gelcoat, blend 299E and 399 at a 50/50 ratio and apply while agitating the surface with a ScotchBrite pad. Next, compound the hull, follow with a glaze (e.g. 3M Finesse-it II) and then wax. These photos from Interlux show the steps involved. In the bottom photo, the boat looks brand new. If you decide to paint but don't wish to do this on a routine basis, Jim recommends using a hard paint, such as Fiberglass Bottomkote or Fiberglass Bottomkote Aqua, both of which retain their color longer than ablative or copolymer paints. The prior is attritubed to Interlux Paint Company.

There are several ways of going about this. While you could grind out an area so you have a 12:1 angle, prepare a patch that duplicates the laminate on your boat and bond the patch in place, there is a simpler method. Having just completed this on a 22' (6.7m) powerboat, it's very workable and the least visible. Use a holesaw to cut a plug from a piece of marine-grade mahogany plywood. The plug will need to be the size of the hole diameter you need to fill. Tape the repair area, and then solvent wipe it and the hole. If you have access to the interior bilge, do the same and sand with 80-grit to rough up the surface. Mix up a batch of epoxy resin, coat the edges of the plug. Glue the plug in place with glue thickened to a peanut-butter consistency. The plug thickness should be slightly less than the hull thickness at the hole. Position the plug so it's slightly recessed on the outside. Using a rotary tool (e.g., Dremel) and a cone-shaped file, grind the outside edge to create a bevel. Solvent wipe and fill the cavity with epoxy resin thickened with a mixture of microballons and cabosil. Level the area flush to the hull using a large squeegee. Wipe, sand flush, and then apply two or three coats of unthickened epoxy resin. As your repair is below the waterline and you'll be applying bottom paint, you don't even need to gelcoat. But if I was, I would sand, and then brush or spray on color-matched gelcoat. Once cured, remove the masking tape. Retape the repair area moving out 2" or more. Solvent wipe, wet sand, and then gelcoat. I usually move the tape out in increments a few times to blend in the repair. To stiffen the repair on the inside, solvent wipe, and then wet the repair area by brushing on unthickened epoxy, and then wet out a piece of 6oz fiberglass cut to size, lay over the area and use a squeegee to remove air bubbles. Once cured, cut your new hole and you're ready to install that new transducer. This is attributed to Jan Mundy.

I have been putting off - September 5, 2007

2007-09-05T22:50:00.000-04:00

OK, up till now, very little has been accomplished. The boat is stable on the trailer, with jack stands on four corners. I also support the bow and stern, hull center with four step ladders with cross member support, using Styrofoam wedges. I do not like movement while on the boat. This has well steadied when walking below and on deck.

It has been my practice on the last three boats to do one simple task first. Well it is not simply, but I have understood the vessel better. No its not a survey, that would not be feasible for this vessel.

It's cleaning ! I have found that if I before ripping out, except for the obvious, cleaning all the the large and small areas, all the problems will become apparent. From major to minor. Plus, I an vision what I want to do in an area.

So I started with the dirtest, tightest, darkest area of the boat that I can crawl into. Forgot something, before starting cleaning, I wanted make sure there were no four, six, twelve legged surprises. So set off a bug bomb and allow it work over night. I did and avoided some companions. Back to cleaning. So on the starboard aft storage to the port side it was all cleaned and ready to paint. (some of this may have been address at a prior date on the blog, humor me, I am on a roll) This boats stern either was down or water came in to around two foot. So I know that the sole will need to be checked for rotten wood. So, I ripped out the plywood berth seats/cover, whatever, have a clean all areas. The inside so the hull has only one areas I need to fiberglass. It nothing significant, when built, they left a tag dry from resin.

So that is where I am. To help me organize, since my age is significant, I have email a gentleman that purports he has a book that may be able to help. We will see. If so, I will share. Who am I kidding, I am the only one reading this !

Lights out. I think that this was kind of the same thing I wrote last time. Who cares. It my back and acking T%$@. I will get my camera working so that pictures of progress or lack of can be posted

One thingI will have asked assitance is how to work on the bottom where the trailer rails are. Normally at the yard it would not be an issue.

Crawling Into Tight Spaces - September 2, 2007

2007-09-04T19:11:00.000-04:00

Hold it, who are these two? If that were Chris and I Now we would not have a hard time crawling into tight spaces. He was two and I was, had hair.

On the 9/2, which was my 58th, got into taking on cleaning the port aft. I was again a mess. Something happened, it had filled up with water sometime in the past. Needless to say, I DID NOT KNOW ! But, so far it has this oversight has not revealed any serious problem. This was a two day job. And I am not feeling great. Wish I was the guy in the picture again.

No I don't....

So, both the starboard and port aft are ready to be,,,,what. I don't know, it better to continue ripping out and cleaning in order to check out
all the small places. I going to need to replace some of the plates for deckmounted items, i.e. winches, etc. etc.

Once the cleaning is done, we'll do a pressure test to find leaking on the deck.

Foam or not to Foam - August 31, 2007 (revised 09/02/07)

2007-08-31T23:47:00.000-04:00

I need storage and there is not alot of room. Need to find out whether the foam is really needed. Will doing some cleaning tommorrow. First task is the the starboard aft locker. It is black with gease. I don't think it has ever been cleaned or painted. The plan will be to add rolling shelf for a cooler above the removeable fuel tank.

I am using the same cleaner used in the past. Called Purple something, like that. But is very good taking on the grease.

09/01/07
A knowledgeable sailor on sailnet suggested in so many words, it would not be a good idea to remove the foam. I had not thought about hitting a stump in the planned sailing area, Kerr Lake VA/NC.

Doing work on this boat is going to take some adjustment. The others were saltwater where the O'Day will be in fresh. Pat said I could not take this one into the bay. Probably right, it not as heavy duty as the 416 for that matter the Westerly.

Don't Reinvent the Wheel - August 29, 2007

2007-08-29T19:08:00.000-04:00

I found two sites that gentlemen put together that should answer questions that I have as to what the boat looks like with peices removed. http://www.sailboatowners.com/upload/display.tpl?folder=73140477494&fno=79

http://carrboroyachtclub.blogspot.com/

My first chore is to find materials that Chris and I will need. (Chris is my son who is going to help). I need to find two 3/8 inch marine plywood. One guy locally said he could order and will call. Also the has teak sheets, but could not get to them.

Spoke to a gentleman that came to the house with his wife to have Pat do some embroidery. We talked and found that in the past he worked for Hatteras (Wellcraft). Interesting, Hatteras did not us marine plywood except in stringers, they use OSB.

I spoke the group on sailnet.com, thanks guys, who gave me leads for plywood: (If you are a serious sailer, this is the group to join, again serious but at time light and no bull$#%^ is tolerated)

http://www.worldpanel.com/index.htm which is in Windor NC down the road.
http://www.apawood.org/ Standards for woods
http://www.capitolcitylumber.com/plywood.cfm in Raleigh NC
http://www.dap.com/docs/tech/00030205.pdf DAP® WELDWOOD Waterproof Resorcinol Glue

This is going to help as long as the health stays fair,

So it goes. So much for now. This is going to be so slow.

First Step, Get the junk off. August 27, 2007

2007-08-26T21:31:00.000-04:00

I took to getting everything off the boat that was left, including gasoline ! Unbelievable, why would someone leave a tank half full? So, removed everything that was not attached and have a open area to work from.

Doing a quick survey, the following is needed: Replace both port and starboard berth's wood. Checked out bulkhead, it appears that the hinge plate has done some damage. Fiberglassing in side will fix that. To paint or sand the existing bulkheads, I don't know which way to go . The bulkheads are slide into a formed section of the deck. Throwaway the potty, I don't need that, will made that area a locker. Box in the starboard berth, since there is no partition separating from stern. Box in beneath cockpit for storage, same for berths.

Well that is the initial punch list. First I have got to clean the whole interior, except that which will replaced.

2007-08-26T21:21:00.000-04:00

After removing all the items on board, which was just mostly junk. It now is time to evaulate what to do next. Though the bulkheads forward appears ok, I don't like the look. Having not replaced a bulkhead before, I have to figure out whether to sand out wood to leave a clean look or just replace. The first would be must eaiser.

The boat is dirty, but appears sound. I just it was not a priority. I will need to replace the plywood on both starboard and port

What is next ? August 22, 2007

2007-08-22T22:16:00.000-04:00

I worked on the trailer extension Sunday morning for an hour and got it loose. Though I enjoy, this work is certainly tiring me out quickly. From 11:00 AM on, I slept most of Sunday.

Next Saturday I will speake to a local fab shop morning regarding a bow plate out of stainless steel. I will need to get measurement inside and out.

Will need to compose a list of items to attend to. Most likely, I will use the logs from all my former sailboats. Cupie's Craft 1967 Westerly Cirrus 22, our Morgan 300 Classic 1975, and Morgan 416 Ketch. There is no sense in reinventing the process.

I know nothing about this boat. It was like the Westerly we did no survery. Will get the titles changed over to my name.

His is going to be exhausting, but it for Chris and Cameron.

Picking up Boat - August 18, 2007

2007-08-18T20:58:00.000-04:00

My son had planned to join me, but that did not happen. So I left after work on the 16th to drive to Nashville, in hopes that I would not need to go any further. The trip down was at night arriving a hotel at 2:30AM, with the help of the local police. At 8:00 AM on the 17th I got the call and pick up would be here.

At 11:30 AM the transfer was made and I was on the way back. The longest run was from Nashville to Knoxville. I stopped at each reststop to check the trailer. The surprise came at 6:00 PM in Wytheville, VA. The eye on the boat to hook to trailer pulled out. At the rest stop before Wytheville, there was no problem. I surmised that I had to use what I had with me. Using the straps I had, I hooked the bow cleats to the trailer and put a strap across the bow hooking to each side of trailer.

The next four hours were slow, given I did not go above 45 MPH on I-81 to Roanoke then Route 220 to 58 East.

No problems with the boat trailer. It worked with the straps. Having come thru three states over 13 hours, the only unexpected stop was three miles from the house. The local sheriff deputy patrolling pulled me over adn question why my blinkers were on and the trailer was not registered to me. I explained, and off I went to home.

Chris and Pat were there to help back the trailer into the driveway. but we have to park on a neigbhor curb. ( He came out at 2:45 to see what the noise was.)

Today when Pat returned from Raleigh, I moved to the one of our driveways.

Cost to move. $350.00

I am still tired....

Insurance, Chains, Tools - August 15, 2007

2007-08-15T22:22:00.000-04:00

I have placed an application with BoatUS for insurance on the boat and trailer. Nationwide, my home and car insurer, would not insure on the road just in water. I had BoatUS and SeaTow on the 416 and the classic. I came in handy in a cold November a number of years ago off Solomons in the middle of the night. That story is for some other time.

So the boat insurance is $90 per year compared to the $500 we paid for the 416. The insurance is for replacement value. I bought some chains since I am not sure what we will find at pick up. And, I gathered up tools to take. Chris came over for dinner this evening and helped with sending info to the insurance company. He appears to be excited in that he will have a boat to sail soon, though he amazed how I found this boat.

The rotors on the F350 were turned, wheels rotated, oil/filter and fuel filter changed. Taking assorted tools and ropes and etc., to make me free better should problems arise.

Ok, that it for now...I hope.

Punch list for trip - August 13, 2007

2007-08-13T21:03:00.000-04:00

As I proceed with this adventure, I plan to do a number of punch list and attempt to accomplish in a reasonable length of time. Mindful of my responsibilities at work and my goal to help as many children as possible. Then a balance has to fallen on my responsibilities, naturally.

So if I stop, it is because I am not bored, but need to focus on job while at home. Such as tonight, I needed to speak to a parent regarding a possible placement. That taken care of, I can continue

The first thing was get the truck ready. Given that it used in the business and pulls trailer, brakes wear out often. In fact at 189,000 miles we have had five sets of rotors, which have been turned 9 times. At $200 a shot for rotors and $60 for turning, that's a bite. Next an oil change. This vehicle is a F250 7.3 4x4 diesel, it takes 15 quarts every 3,000 miles. Pat does that in 5 weeks. These will be done while at work.

I need 2 inch ball for the trailer, check. Pat's business trailer uses a 3.5 inch ball. Also I need two receivers, two inch and a four inch, check. Next is a grease gun, check; a floor jack, check; a four way lug tool, check; and a larger pipe wrench, check; and a lock for the trailer, check.

So much for this evening. I need to take my nine meds and go to sleep.

Cost was absorbed by business as to work to vehicle. Would have needed anyway. But it was $400.00

Why this boat ? August 12, 2007

2007-08-12T08:01:00.000-04:00

It was by chance this boat appeared. So I needed to do some work, that is what I enjoy. Making something out of something, if that makes sense. The money I would putting in, would not be alot (we will see) most of the stuff that I would need could be found in used areas, except the paint and other consumables. (right, who am I kidding)

Back in 1998 I met some kind folks that were traveling on a sailboat a Larry and Lin, can recall right now their last name. But he had a simple comment regarding boats.

"Well, here we are, I guess it time to leave." and they left.

Tom

Old Man Sailing, Again - August 11, 2007

2007-08-11T14:58:00.000-04:00

Having started sailing in 1982, and having three boats in the past with the last being a Morgan 416. I would like to get back into either the Chesapeake or inland waters.

Rather than buy a cruiser that needed a slip, yard $ $ on the hard, electric and midnight runs during hurricanes. I have decided to, with Pat's permission, my pretty wife, to find a trailerable sailboat.

Finding a boat was hard for the price I wanted to pay was hard, more than two boat units into the purchase. What is a boat unit you might ask. In terms of those of us that have come to the chapels West Marine, Bacon's Sails, Boat US, etc. , one boat unit is $1,000.

So my 25 year old son is taking me on the evening of the 16th of August to meet a nice young man who is delivering a boat that I have purchased from him. We will be driving to Knoxville, Tennessee, to meet. The trip was reduce by half, rather than having to drive to Missouri. The young man is on his way back to school in Florida. Spent a little more than two units.

Thus far in my sailing career, I logged 1,600 or 66 total days sailing time on my first boat, a 22 foot Cirrus Westerly, we named Cupie's Craft, in the Mobjack Bay and the Chesapeake Bay. At that time my son, Christopher was 6 months old. Neither Pat or I knew what we were doing. Especially on our first night anchored being caught in a northeaster in Put-In-Creek off the Mobjack. After seeing that my dear friend, Steve Capo', who taught me to sail. The time came to get a bigger boat. That vessel was a Morgan Classic 300, a 30 footer. I had over 2,100 sailing hours or 87 days on that boat. It was my home for three months in the 80's when taking a job in Maryland. Pat and Chris were in our home in Williamsburg, VA. Once that home sold and we moved to Prince Frederick, Maryland. We kept this boat in Solomons, Maryland. From there we sailed the middle part of the Chesapeake. In leaving Maryland and taking a a position in Southern Virginia. I am ashamed to say that I allow the Love is Two to sink on land.

We bought the Island Gypsy, a 41 foot Morgan 416 Out Island Ketch. Lord she was beautiful. I was on the bay, even when Pat and Chris could not join me. My dear friend, Randy and I did most of our sailing at night out of Fishing Bay off the Chesapeake. On the weekend and in vacations I logged the most hours on this boat given that the amount of time available.

All good things come to an end. With the business Pat started, I needed to help. So we sold the Gypsy plus he money from the sale of WJL. Plus, we could not keep since we had limited income.

I worked with Pat in the business that is now successful for a number of years and did some substance counseling for my friend Gene as well as help my friend Kenneth in his North Carolina operation securing sites for group homes.

I took up a position working finding homes and supervising staff in a foster home operation. I enjoy the folks I work with and perhaps will stay for a number of years or perhaps not, who knows.

I would like to get back into the H2O. The immediate family members bought a trawler and at times Pat and I will enjoy. But I think, it working on a boat is what I enjoy. So I come back to where I started.

Everything is an adventure...This is the lastest. I hope to continue to document my work on this new/old vessel s that my grandson can know his PopPop other than being a old man in a chair. Also I am back where I am with my own son, who is now 25 and loves to sail....That is the real reason I am doing this. I would like his son to have the opportunity to learn the joy of being on the water with his son. I do not plan to pass up any opportunity with Chris.

I will be tracking the $ put in to this project at end of each note , just to keep things in perspective. Again, I don't plan to put alot into this effort.

Tom