I need storage and there is not alot of room. Need to find out whether the foam is really needed. Will doing some cleaning tommorrow. First task is the the starboard aft locker. It is black with gease. I don't think it has ever been cleaned or painted. The plan will be to add rolling shelf for a cooler above the removeable fuel tank.
I am using the same cleaner used in the past. Called Purple something, like that. But is very good taking on the grease.
09/01/07
A knowledgeable sailor on sailnet suggested in so many words, it would not be a good idea to remove the foam. I had not thought about hitting a stump in the planned sailing area, Kerr Lake VA/NC.
Doing work on this boat is going to take some adjustment. The others were saltwater where the O'Day will be in fresh. Pat said I could not take this one into the bay. Probably right, it not as heavy duty as the 416 for that matter the Westerly.
Friday, August 31, 2007
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
Don't Reinvent the Wheel - August 29, 2007
I found two sites that gentlemen put together that should answer questions that I have as to what the boat looks like with peices removed. http://www.sailboatowners.com/upload/display.tpl?folder=73140477494&fno=79
http://carrboroyachtclub.blogspot.com/
My first chore is to find materials that Chris and I will need. (Chris is my son who is going to help). I need to find two 3/8 inch marine plywood. One guy locally said he could order and will call. Also the has teak sheets, but could not get to them.
Spoke to a gentleman that came to the house with his wife to have Pat do some embroidery. We talked and found that in the past he worked for Hatteras (Wellcraft). Interesting, Hatteras did not us marine plywood except in stringers, they use OSB.
I spoke the group on sailnet.com, thanks guys, who gave me leads for plywood: (If you are a serious sailer, this is the group to join, again serious but at time light and no bull$#%^ is tolerated)
http://www.worldpanel.com/index.htm which is in Windor NC down the road.
http://www.apawood.org/ Standards for woods
http://www.capitolcitylumber.com/plywood.cfm in Raleigh NC
http://www.dap.com/docs/tech/00030205.pdf DAP® WELDWOOD Waterproof Resorcinol Glue
This is going to help as long as the health stays fair,
So it goes. So much for now. This is going to be so slow.
http://carrboroyachtclub.blogspot.com/
My first chore is to find materials that Chris and I will need. (Chris is my son who is going to help). I need to find two 3/8 inch marine plywood. One guy locally said he could order and will call. Also the has teak sheets, but could not get to them.
Spoke to a gentleman that came to the house with his wife to have Pat do some embroidery. We talked and found that in the past he worked for Hatteras (Wellcraft). Interesting, Hatteras did not us marine plywood except in stringers, they use OSB.
I spoke the group on sailnet.com, thanks guys, who gave me leads for plywood: (If you are a serious sailer, this is the group to join, again serious but at time light and no bull$#%^ is tolerated)
http://www.worldpanel.com/index.htm which is in Windor NC down the road.
http://www.apawood.org/ Standards for woods
http://www.capitolcitylumber.com/plywood.cfm in Raleigh NC
http://www.dap.com/docs/tech/00030205.pdf DAP® WELDWOOD Waterproof Resorcinol Glue
This is going to help as long as the health stays fair,
So it goes. So much for now. This is going to be so slow.
Sunday, August 26, 2007
First Step, Get the junk off. August 27, 2007
I took to getting everything off the boat that was left, including gasoline ! Unbelievable, why would someone leave a tank half full? So, removed everything that was not attached and have a open area to work from.Doing a quick survey, the following is needed: Replace both port and starboard berth's wood. Checked out bulkhead, it appears that the hinge plate has done some damage. Fiberglassing in side will fix that. To paint or sand the existing bulkheads, I don't know which way to go . The bulkheads are slide into a formed section of the deck. Throwaway the potty, I don't need that, will made that area a locker. Box in the starboard berth, since there is no partition separating from stern. Box in beneath cockpit for storage, same for berths.
Well that is the initial punch list. First I have got to clean the whole interior, except that which will replaced.
After removing all the items on board, which was just mostly junk. It now is time to evaulate what to do next. Though the bulkheads forward appears ok, I don't like the look. Having not replaced a bulkhead before, I have to figure out whether to sand out wood to leave a clean look or just replace. The first would be must eaiser.
The boat is dirty, but appears sound. I just it was not a priority. I will need to replace the plywood on both starboard and port
The boat is dirty, but appears sound. I just it was not a priority. I will need to replace the plywood on both starboard and port
Wednesday, August 22, 2007
What is next ? August 22, 2007
I worked on the trailer extension Sunday morning for an hour and got it loose. Though I enjoy, this work is certainly tiring me out quickly. From 11:00 AM on, I slept most of Sunday.
Next Saturday I will speake to a local fab shop morning regarding a bow plate out of stainless steel. I will need to get measurement inside and out.
Will need to compose a list of items to attend to. Most likely, I will use the logs from all my former sailboats. Cupie's Craft 1967 Westerly Cirrus 22, our Morgan 300 Classic 1975, and Morgan 416 Ketch. There is no sense in reinventing the process.
I know nothing about this boat. It was like the Westerly we did no survery. Will get the titles changed over to my name.
His is going to be exhausting, but it for Chris and Cameron.
Next Saturday I will speake to a local fab shop morning regarding a bow plate out of stainless steel. I will need to get measurement inside and out.
Will need to compose a list of items to attend to. Most likely, I will use the logs from all my former sailboats. Cupie's Craft 1967 Westerly Cirrus 22, our Morgan 300 Classic 1975, and Morgan 416 Ketch. There is no sense in reinventing the process.
I know nothing about this boat. It was like the Westerly we did no survery. Will get the titles changed over to my name.
His is going to be exhausting, but it for Chris and Cameron.
Saturday, August 18, 2007
Picking up Boat - August 18, 2007
My son had planned to join me, but that did not happen. So I left after work on the 16th to drive to Nashville, in hopes that I would not need to go any further. The trip down was at night arriving a hotel at 2:30AM, with the help of the local police. At 8:00 AM on the 17th I got the call and pick up would be here.
At 11:30 AM the transfer was made and I was on the way back. The longest run was from Nashville to Knoxville. I stopped at each reststop to check the trailer. The surprise came at 6:00 PM in Wytheville, VA. The eye on the boat to hook to trailer pulled out. At the rest stop before Wytheville, there was no problem. I surmised that I had to use what I had with me. Using the straps I had, I hooked the bow cleats to the trailer and put a strap across the bow hooking to each side of trailer.
The next four hours were slow, given I did not go above 45 MPH on I-81 to Roanoke then Route 220 to 58 East.
No problems with the boat trailer. It worked with the straps. Having come thru three states over 13 hours, the only unexpected stop was three miles from the house. The local sheriff deputy patrolling pulled me over adn question why my blinkers were on and the trailer was not registered to me. I explained, and off I went to home.
Chris and Pat were there to help back the trailer into the driveway. but we have to park on a neigbhor curb. ( He came out at 2:45 to see what the noise was.)
Today when Pat returned from Raleigh, I moved to the one of our driveways.
Cost to move. $350.00
I am still tired....
At 11:30 AM the transfer was made and I was on the way back. The longest run was from Nashville to Knoxville. I stopped at each reststop to check the trailer. The surprise came at 6:00 PM in Wytheville, VA. The eye on the boat to hook to trailer pulled out. At the rest stop before Wytheville, there was no problem. I surmised that I had to use what I had with me. Using the straps I had, I hooked the bow cleats to the trailer and put a strap across the bow hooking to each side of trailer.
The next four hours were slow, given I did not go above 45 MPH on I-81 to Roanoke then Route 220 to 58 East.
No problems with the boat trailer. It worked with the straps. Having come thru three states over 13 hours, the only unexpected stop was three miles from the house. The local sheriff deputy patrolling pulled me over adn question why my blinkers were on and the trailer was not registered to me. I explained, and off I went to home.
Chris and Pat were there to help back the trailer into the driveway. but we have to park on a neigbhor curb. ( He came out at 2:45 to see what the noise was.)
Today when Pat returned from Raleigh, I moved to the one of our driveways.
Cost to move. $350.00
I am still tired....
Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Insurance, Chains, Tools - August 15, 2007
I have placed an application with BoatUS for insurance on the boat and trailer. Nationwide, my home and car insurer, would not insure on the road just in water. I had BoatUS and SeaTow on the 416 and the classic. I came in handy in a cold November a number of years ago off Solomons in the middle of the night. That story is for some other time.
So the boat insurance is $90 per year compared to the $500 we paid for the 416. The insurance is for replacement value. I bought some chains since I am not sure what we will find at pick up. And, I gathered up tools to take. Chris came over for dinner this evening and helped with sending info to the insurance company. He appears to be excited in that he will have a boat to sail soon, though he amazed how I found this boat.
The rotors on the F350 were turned, wheels rotated, oil/filter and fuel filter changed. Taking assorted tools and ropes and etc., to make me free better should problems arise.
Ok, that it for now...I hope.
Monday, August 13, 2007
Punch list for trip - August 13, 2007
As I proceed with this adventure, I plan to do a number of punch list and attempt to accomplish in a reasonable length of time. Mindful of my responsibilities at work and my goal to help as many children as possible. Then a balance has to fallen on my responsibilities, naturally.
So if I stop, it is because I am not bored, but need to focus on job while at home. Such as tonight, I needed to speak to a parent regarding a possible placement. That taken care of, I can continue
The first thing was get the truck ready. Given that it used in the business and pulls trailer, brakes wear out often. In fact at 189,000 miles we have had five sets of rotors, which have been turned 9 times. At $200 a shot for rotors and $60 for turning, that's a bite. Next an oil change. This vehicle is a F250 7.3 4x4 diesel, it takes 15 quarts every 3,000 miles. Pat does that in 5 weeks. These will be done while at work.
I need 2 inch ball for the trailer, check. Pat's business trailer uses a 3.5 inch ball. Also I need two receivers, two inch and a four inch, check. Next is a grease gun, check; a floor jack, check; a four way lug tool, check; and a larger pipe wrench, check; and a lock for the trailer, check.
So much for this evening. I need to take my nine meds and go to sleep.
Cost was absorbed by business as to work to vehicle. Would have needed anyway. But it was $400.00
So if I stop, it is because I am not bored, but need to focus on job while at home. Such as tonight, I needed to speak to a parent regarding a possible placement. That taken care of, I can continue
The first thing was get the truck ready. Given that it used in the business and pulls trailer, brakes wear out often. In fact at 189,000 miles we have had five sets of rotors, which have been turned 9 times. At $200 a shot for rotors and $60 for turning, that's a bite. Next an oil change. This vehicle is a F250 7.3 4x4 diesel, it takes 15 quarts every 3,000 miles. Pat does that in 5 weeks. These will be done while at work.
I need 2 inch ball for the trailer, check. Pat's business trailer uses a 3.5 inch ball. Also I need two receivers, two inch and a four inch, check. Next is a grease gun, check; a floor jack, check; a four way lug tool, check; and a larger pipe wrench, check; and a lock for the trailer, check.
So much for this evening. I need to take my nine meds and go to sleep.
Cost was absorbed by business as to work to vehicle. Would have needed anyway. But it was $400.00
Sunday, August 12, 2007
Why this boat ? August 12, 2007
It was by chance this boat appeared. So I needed to do some work, that is what I enjoy. Making something out of something, if that makes sense. The money I would putting in, would not be alot (we will see) most of the stuff that I would need could be found in used areas, except the paint and other consumables. (right, who am I kidding)
Back in 1998 I met some kind folks that were traveling on a sailboat a Larry and Lin, can recall right now their last name. But he had a simple comment regarding boats.
"Well, here we are, I guess it time to leave." and they left.
Tom
Back in 1998 I met some kind folks that were traveling on a sailboat a Larry and Lin, can recall right now their last name. But he had a simple comment regarding boats.
"Well, here we are, I guess it time to leave." and they left.
Tom
Saturday, August 11, 2007
Old Man Sailing, Again - August 11, 2007
Having started sailing in 1982, and having three boats in the past with the last being a Morgan 416. I would like to get back into either the Chesapeake or inland waters.
Rather than buy a cruiser that needed a slip, yard $ $ on the hard, electric and midnight runs during hurricanes. I have decided to, with Pat's permission, my pretty wife, to find a trailerable sailboat.
Finding a boat was hard for the price I wanted to pay was hard, more than two boat units into the purchase. What is a boat unit you might ask. In terms of those of us that have come to the chapels West Marine, Bacon's Sails, Boat US, etc. , one boat unit is $1,000.
So my 25 year old son is taking me on the evening of the 16th of August to meet a nice young man who is delivering a boat that I have purchased from him. We will be driving to Knoxville, Tennessee, to meet. The trip was reduce by half, rather than having to drive to Missouri. The young man is on his way back to school in Florida. Spent a little more than two units.
Thus far in my sailing career, I logged 1,600 or 66 total days sailing time on my first boat, a 22 foot Cirrus Westerly, we named Cupie's Craft, in the Mobjack Bay and the Chesapeake Bay. At that time my son, Christopher was 6 months old. Neither Pat or I knew what we were doing. Especially on our first night anchored being caught in a northeaster in Put-In-Creek off the Mobjack. After seeing that my dear friend, Steve Capo', who taught me to sail. The time came to get a bigger boat. That vessel was a Morgan Classic 300, a 30 footer. I had over 2,100 sailing hours or 87 days on that boat. It was my home for three months in the 80's when taking a job in Maryland. Pat and Chris were in our home in Williamsburg, VA. Once that home sold and we moved to Prince Frederick, Maryland. We kept this boat in Solomons, Maryland. From there we sailed the middle part of the Chesapeake. In leaving Maryland and taking a a position in Southern Virginia. I am ashamed to say that I allow the Love is Two to sink on land.
We bought the Island Gypsy, a 41 foot Morgan 416 Out Island Ketch. Lord she was beautiful. I was on the bay, even when Pat and Chris could not join me. My dear friend, Randy and I did most of our sailing at night out of Fishing Bay off the Chesapeake. On the weekend and in vacations I logged the most hours on this boat given that the amount of time available.
All good things come to an end. With the business Pat started, I needed to help. So we sold the Gypsy plus he money from the sale of WJL. Plus, we could not keep since we had limited income.
I worked with Pat in the business that is now successful for a number of years and did some substance counseling for my friend Gene as well as help my friend Kenneth in his North Carolina operation securing sites for group homes.
I took up a position working finding homes and supervising staff in a foster home operation. I enjoy the folks I work with and perhaps will stay for a number of years or perhaps not, who knows.
I would like to get back into the H2O. The immediate family members bought a trawler and at times Pat and I will enjoy. But I think, it working on a boat is what I enjoy. So I come back to where I started.
Everything is an adventure...This is the lastest. I hope to continue to document my work on this new/old vessel s that my grandson can know his PopPop other than being a old man in a chair. Also I am back where I am with my own son, who is now 25 and loves to sail....That is the real reason I am doing this. I would like his son to have the opportunity to learn the joy of being on the water with his son. I do not plan to pass up any opportunity with Chris.
Rather than buy a cruiser that needed a slip, yard $ $ on the hard, electric and midnight runs during hurricanes. I have decided to, with Pat's permission, my pretty wife, to find a trailerable sailboat.
Finding a boat was hard for the price I wanted to pay was hard, more than two boat units into the purchase. What is a boat unit you might ask. In terms of those of us that have come to the chapels West Marine, Bacon's Sails, Boat US, etc. , one boat unit is $1,000.
So my 25 year old son is taking me on the evening of the 16th of August to meet a nice young man who is delivering a boat that I have purchased from him. We will be driving to Knoxville, Tennessee, to meet. The trip was reduce by half, rather than having to drive to Missouri. The young man is on his way back to school in Florida. Spent a little more than two units.
Thus far in my sailing career, I logged 1,600 or 66 total days sailing time on my first boat, a 22 foot Cirrus Westerly, we named Cupie's Craft, in the Mobjack Bay and the Chesapeake Bay. At that time my son, Christopher was 6 months old. Neither Pat or I knew what we were doing. Especially on our first night anchored being caught in a northeaster in Put-In-Creek off the Mobjack. After seeing that my dear friend, Steve Capo', who taught me to sail. The time came to get a bigger boat. That vessel was a Morgan Classic 300, a 30 footer. I had over 2,100 sailing hours or 87 days on that boat. It was my home for three months in the 80's when taking a job in Maryland. Pat and Chris were in our home in Williamsburg, VA. Once that home sold and we moved to Prince Frederick, Maryland. We kept this boat in Solomons, Maryland. From there we sailed the middle part of the Chesapeake. In leaving Maryland and taking a a position in Southern Virginia. I am ashamed to say that I allow the Love is Two to sink on land.
We bought the Island Gypsy, a 41 foot Morgan 416 Out Island Ketch. Lord she was beautiful. I was on the bay, even when Pat and Chris could not join me. My dear friend, Randy and I did most of our sailing at night out of Fishing Bay off the Chesapeake. On the weekend and in vacations I logged the most hours on this boat given that the amount of time available.
All good things come to an end. With the business Pat started, I needed to help. So we sold the Gypsy plus he money from the sale of WJL. Plus, we could not keep since we had limited income.
I worked with Pat in the business that is now successful for a number of years and did some substance counseling for my friend Gene as well as help my friend Kenneth in his North Carolina operation securing sites for group homes.
I took up a position working finding homes and supervising staff in a foster home operation. I enjoy the folks I work with and perhaps will stay for a number of years or perhaps not, who knows.
I would like to get back into the H2O. The immediate family members bought a trawler and at times Pat and I will enjoy. But I think, it working on a boat is what I enjoy. So I come back to where I started.
Everything is an adventure...This is the lastest. I hope to continue to document my work on this new/old vessel s that my grandson can know his PopPop other than being a old man in a chair. Also I am back where I am with my own son, who is now 25 and loves to sail....That is the real reason I am doing this. I would like his son to have the opportunity to learn the joy of being on the water with his son. I do not plan to pass up any opportunity with Chris.
I will be tracking the $ put in to this project at end of each note , just to keep things in perspective. Again, I don't plan to put alot into this effort.
Tom
Tom
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